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Decline works a different plane of motion than the incline does. Decline places you more in between the sagital and transverse plane while incline places you more inbetween the frontal and tranverse plane. it is important to work in both planes. If you aren't going to do declines I recommend dips.ZOISinMN said:Is decline benching worth doing? I always do Incline. Anyways, i was wondering by not doing decline, am i missing out on building any muscle that incline wouldnt give me?
Haven't tried CG decline, but I know CG inclines are fantastic for building pressing power in the triceps. Awkward as hell at first though...LAM said:close grip BP on the incline or decline kicks ass...
if you are stimulating maximum hypertrophy in your chest using flys and not pressing movements you are obviously not doing them correctly..flys are a strectch muscle movement and typically are far from optimum for hypertrophy..BigBallaGA said:why not just hit the PEC FLY machine, it works incredible on my chest and gives me a great pump and it allows me to do many more reps which i feel tire out my muscles much more. it has given me greater size increase than flat or incline bench in less time
im not sure what you mean by stretch movement, as fas as i know you working the same muscle groups using Pec Fly as using a incline dumbell presses or flat bench with the exception of not using stabilizer muscles. but overall its basically achieves the same end resultLAM said:if you are stimulating maximum hypertrophy in your chest using flys and not pressing movements you are obviously not doing them correctly..flys are a strectch muscle movement and typically are far from optimum for hypertrophy..
they are not even close to the same exercise. trying to get a massive chest from flys is like trying to grow huge legs from doing leg extensions or huge triceps from db kick backs...it doesn't happenBigBallaGA said:im not sure what you mean by stretch movement, as fas as i know you working the same muscle groups using Pec Fly as using a incline dumbell presses or flat bench with the exception of not using stabilizer muscles. but overall its basically achieves the same end result
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I think what LAM is trying to tell ya is that because a press is a multi-joint exercises you have a greater recruitment of muscle fibers, allowing a greater amount of weight to be moved, causing a greater amount of stress to be placed on the given muscles leading to a greater growth potential.BigBallaGA said:i dont know dude, i know some hugeeee guys at my gym who systematically use the pec fly machine ! it grows the inner chest like nothing else
So inclines work your upper pecs and declines work your lower pecs huh?If you do flat bench work there is RARELY EVER a need for decline work. 99% of trainees have no problem with the lower pecs, but have flatness in the upper region. I have done decline bench once in my life and I feel it totally unnecessary.
Here we go......MonStar said:So inclines work your upper pecs and declines work your lower pecs huh?
Don't even try it with me Mon. When you have been doing what I've been doing for the last 18 years then we can talk.MonStar said:So inclines work your upper pecs and declines work your lower pecs huh?
amen dude !!!!!gopro said:I think that pressing is certainly necessary for a huge chest, but I think that the BEST chests are a result of an equal amount of time spent on flyes. Done correctly, they have HUGE potential for stimulating hypertrophy, especially b/c of the stretch that they allow...this is why they can not be compared to Leg extensions or tricep pressdowns.
Someone just lock this thread before it's too late.gopro said:Don't even try it with me Mon. When you have been doing what I've been doing for the last 18 years then we can talk.
This I can somewhat agree with, only because I attribute so much of my pec development to basic flat DB flyes.I think that pressing is certainly necessary for a huge chest, but I think that the BEST chests are a result of an equal amount of time spent on flyes. Done correctly, they have HUGE potential for stimulating hypertrophy, especially b/c of the stretch that they allow...this is why they can not be compared to Leg extensions or tricep pressdowns.