Which causes more shutdown?

wheybolic63 · Apr 13, 2013

soley in terms of shutdown and the amount of your bodies own endogenous test being dropped by the use of an oral androgen, which one is more likely to cause i higher degree of shutdown. Superdrol or Super dmz 2.0. i realize everyone is different just wondering which one on paper should cause more shutdown. thanks guys

sendit08 · Apr 13, 2013

wheybolic63 said:
soley in terms of shutdown and the amount of your bodies own endogenous test being dropped by the use of an oral androgen, which one is more likely to cause i higher degree of shutdown. Superdrol or Super dmz 2.0. i realize everyone is different just wondering which one on paper should cause more shutdown. thanks guys

imo... shut down is shut down.
Its not like youll be semi-shutdown.
either your test production is shut down or its not.

wheybolic63 · Apr 13, 2013

sendit08 said:
imo... shut down is shut down.
Its not like youll be semi-shutdown.
either your test production is shut down or its not.

sorry i worded that sort of weird. say you take 2 ppl both with the same test levels at exactly 800. outside factors aside. on paper which should cause a lower test score( natural exogenous test)

sendit08 · Apr 13, 2013

wheybolic63 said:
sorry i worded that sort of weird. say you take 2 ppl both with the same test levels at exactly 800. outside factors aside. on paper which should cause a lower test score( natural exogenous test)

I guess what I am saying is both will put you at a low test level.
low enough to not really make a difference side by side.
lets say both people retested and one was at 50, and the other at 150,
both would be so low it doesnt really have any effect on top of the phs that they are running.

wheybolic63 · Apr 13, 2013

sendit08 said:
I guess what I am saying is both will put you at a low test level.
low enough to not really make a difference side by side.
lets say both people retested and one was at 50, and the other at 150,
both would be so low it doesnt really have any effect on top of the phs that they are running.

gotcha thx man

sendit08 · Apr 13, 2013

wheybolic63 said:
gotcha thx man

hey i am by no means a professional, this is just what ive gathered from my reading.
hopefully someone else will chime in and give you their perspective

tinyshrek · Apr 14, 2013

Any time you supplement with a hormone it will shut you down because the body will recognize the foreign substance and tell the body to stop producing.

Now, how fast you recover is entirely genetic and based off age plus whole shit load of contributing factors

gamma · Apr 14, 2013

What is the reasoning behind the question ? Are u wanting to crash ur levels? or are u just trying to see which one is easier on you?

wheybolic63 · Apr 14, 2013

gamma said:
What is the reasoning behind the question ? Are u wanting to crash ur levels? or are u just trying to see which one is easier on you?

just wondering which one i would be able to recover faster from this summer because after this run its gonna be probably 6-9 months before i run another cycle and i want to be able to recover and make natty gains in between that time.

sendit08 · Apr 14, 2013

wheybolic63 said:
just wondering which one i would be able to recover faster from this summer because after this run its gonna be probably 6-9 months before i run another cycle and i want to be able to recover and make natty gains in between that time.

this will be way more dependent on PCT, then off cycle diet and training, not much to do with the ph you run

independent · Apr 14, 2013

sendit08 said:
imo... shut down is shut down.
Its not like youll be semi-shutdown.
either your test production is shut down or its not.

I agree. You should probably run some test along with it. Might as well make it worth your time if youre gonna shut yourself down.

gamma · Apr 14, 2013

Test or no test its definitely gonna depend on pct campaign brother.