What's up boners and bonerette's?
After a pretty sucessful first cycle I'm stoked to finish up PCT and train natty for a while just to see how much strength I keep and how much fat I can cut. Right now I'm sitting at 6'1" 222lbs. I plan to drop down to about 205 which would put me around 10-11%BF.
First cycle was 12wks TestE(750mg), Dbol kicker and winny to finish. Added about 20lbs. I got sick (flu & Bronchitis) two different times on cycle so I'm sure it could have been better. But the strength gains were plain amazing and it was the most fun I've had in a LONG time.
Fuck being all pretty at the beach this year. I want to take my shirt off and make people run in fear of their lives. So I'm planning on doing a pretty hard bulker for my next cycle. Please let me know if you would change or add anything. I need some help with when to start HCG, and how much to take in the weeks leading to PCT.
Cycle
1-16 Test E 750mg
1-14 Deca 500mg
1-5 Dbol 50-60mg
13-18 Winny 50mg
1-18 Proviron 50mg/ED
?-18 HCG (Plan on getting 10,000ius do I need more?)
AI's & Prolactin Antagonizer
1-18 Aromasion 12.5mg/ED
1-18 Caber or Prami (I need help on this one)
PCT
19-22 Clomid 100/75/25/25
I will taper off of the Aromasin and whatever prolactin chem I decide on during PCT to make sure I don't get rebound. (Yes, I know aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor.)
On my last cycle I had very little estrogen related sides. I used liquid adex at .25mg ED. Towards the end of the cycle I started cutting down the dose or skipping days and I still had no estrogen related sides so I believe I'm not very gyno prone or have problems like that (Thank God!). I wanted to switch to aromasin this time just to see if I can notice any difference because it seems to have more upsides than adex. But if something comes up, I know adex suited me well and I have more of that on hand along with letro incase shit gets out of hand.
I've heard awesome things about the proviron so I decided to throw it in there and see what I think. I've heard 50mg is the sweet spot so that's where I'll start. Although it'd be nice to save some coin and go with 25mg. Thoughts?
On the HCG, I planned to run 250iu 2x/wk Sub-Q starting around week 4 until around week 16 then crank it up for two weeks until I start PCT to make sure the nuts are back on track and ready to fill me up with natural test. I know there are MANY different thoughts on this so this is why I ask.
What do you prefer for a Prolactin Antagonizer? Prami sounds really harsh but it seems to work better. Caber seems like it has less sides and still works pretty well so I'm leaning towards this option since I'm not doing anything crazy. And should I start this from day 1 until the end of the cycle or wait until around week 4 or so when the deca will be kicking in? I figure if I keep the estro under control I shouldn't have a problem with the prolactin at the begining and start the caber around week 4.
I know this is the same format of most cycle questions but I hope I added enough prior info about myself and specific questions to actually make this thread useful compared to the noob-ish shit we've been getting.
Thank you for taking the time to read my questions and answer. Mad Reps to helpful posts.
After a pretty sucessful first cycle I'm stoked to finish up PCT and train natty for a while just to see how much strength I keep and how much fat I can cut. Right now I'm sitting at 6'1" 222lbs. I plan to drop down to about 205 which would put me around 10-11%BF.
First cycle was 12wks TestE(750mg), Dbol kicker and winny to finish. Added about 20lbs. I got sick (flu & Bronchitis) two different times on cycle so I'm sure it could have been better. But the strength gains were plain amazing and it was the most fun I've had in a LONG time.
Fuck being all pretty at the beach this year. I want to take my shirt off and make people run in fear of their lives. So I'm planning on doing a pretty hard bulker for my next cycle. Please let me know if you would change or add anything. I need some help with when to start HCG, and how much to take in the weeks leading to PCT.
Cycle
1-16 Test E 750mg
1-14 Deca 500mg
1-5 Dbol 50-60mg
13-18 Winny 50mg
1-18 Proviron 50mg/ED
?-18 HCG (Plan on getting 10,000ius do I need more?)
AI's & Prolactin Antagonizer
1-18 Aromasion 12.5mg/ED
1-18 Caber or Prami (I need help on this one)
PCT
19-22 Clomid 100/75/25/25
I will taper off of the Aromasin and whatever prolactin chem I decide on during PCT to make sure I don't get rebound. (Yes, I know aromasin is a suicidal inhibitor.)
On my last cycle I had very little estrogen related sides. I used liquid adex at .25mg ED. Towards the end of the cycle I started cutting down the dose or skipping days and I still had no estrogen related sides so I believe I'm not very gyno prone or have problems like that (Thank God!). I wanted to switch to aromasin this time just to see if I can notice any difference because it seems to have more upsides than adex. But if something comes up, I know adex suited me well and I have more of that on hand along with letro incase shit gets out of hand.
I've heard awesome things about the proviron so I decided to throw it in there and see what I think. I've heard 50mg is the sweet spot so that's where I'll start. Although it'd be nice to save some coin and go with 25mg. Thoughts?
On the HCG, I planned to run 250iu 2x/wk Sub-Q starting around week 4 until around week 16 then crank it up for two weeks until I start PCT to make sure the nuts are back on track and ready to fill me up with natural test. I know there are MANY different thoughts on this so this is why I ask.
What do you prefer for a Prolactin Antagonizer? Prami sounds really harsh but it seems to work better. Caber seems like it has less sides and still works pretty well so I'm leaning towards this option since I'm not doing anything crazy. And should I start this from day 1 until the end of the cycle or wait until around week 4 or so when the deca will be kicking in? I figure if I keep the estro under control I shouldn't have a problem with the prolactin at the begining and start the caber around week 4.
I know this is the same format of most cycle questions but I hope I added enough prior info about myself and specific questions to actually make this thread useful compared to the noob-ish shit we've been getting.
Thank you for taking the time to read my questions and answer. Mad Reps to helpful posts.