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A good first cycle for mass gains

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When i get back to the states im going to run this cycle please give me any advice you may have.

stats:
age: 22
height: 6.2"
weight: 173

cycle:

week
1. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
2. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
3. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
4. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
5. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
6. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
7. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
8. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
9. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
10. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
11. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 50mg winny-v/day
12. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 50mg winny-v/day
13. natural workout
14. natural workout
15. begin pct

pct
day 1 40mg nolvadex + 200mg clomid
day 2-21 20mg nolvadex + 50mg clomid


suggestions:

* test 250 2x/week 250mg monday morning and 250mg thursday night.

* liv52 3x/day while on d-bol and winny-v


any advice could help. I am contemplating getting rid of the winny-v all together but i am not sure. The cycle i have put together seems pretty good. Im pretty confident in my pct as well

thanks,
k-dubz
 
500mg test for 12 weeks looks good for a first. Idk if the orals are really neccessary, if anything Id drop the winny and keep the dbol...since I only have about 2 weeks of winny you could send it my way ;-)

Might want to consider an AI throughout the cycle
 
Forgot to mention...and not trying to bash you but 173lbs at our height clearly shows that you haven't learned how to eat yet. I'm sure that you could gain a lot of weight naturally before running gear, but either way you need to take a real good look at your diet.
 
im putting together my diet right now im in transit from afgan so i wanna work everything out so i dont rush into my cycle and mess something up. when you say keep the d-bol do you mean replace the last two weeks of winnie with d-bol? i have like no body fat the way i sit im pretty cut. right now im skinny because im in afganistan and i dont have a chance to eat properly. how do you guys think my pct looks?
 
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and wat do ya recomend for my AI im going to have some nolva on hand for gyno should i look further than that?
 
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any recomendations on the aromasin doseage and schedule. i heard it blocks 65% of estrogen build up but havent heard much feedback on it
 
175lb . . for fuck's sake. Try eating some food!
 
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CaptRichArund said:
175lb . . for fuck's sake. Try eating some food!
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Highly agree...I would try to hit AT LEAST 200 naturally first.

But if you must...and you have your mind made up...I would go with a "test only" first cycle. If you run too many compounds on a first cycle...and it f**ks with you...you won't know what's causing the problem.

What kind of test are you thinking?
 
did i not say im in afganistan. you try gaining weight eating mre's once a day
 
i was going to use testosterone enanthate 250. it comes in 1ml vials and im doing 250mg 2x/week i wanted to be sure i did the conversion right wehe i converted it 250mg was just half a ml. that soundin right
 
im not cycleing now i will be home in a few weeks and then i will begin my bulking and my cycle. i just want to make sure i have everything lined up so i dont rush int my cyclw and make a wrong decision
 
k-dubz said:
did i not say im in afganistan. you try gaining weight eating mre's once a day
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Uhhh...no one said to gain the weight while you're there...do you think maybe...just maybe...we meant to do it after you got home?
 
k-dubz said:
i was going to use testosterone enanthate 250. it comes in 1ml vials and im doing 250mg 2x/week i wanted to be sure i did the conversion right wehe i converted it 250mg was just half a ml. that soundin right
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How did you come up with that conversion?
 
There was some calculator on a anobilc site. It didnt sound right to me
 
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Thanks thats a huge help. 2 vials a week seems like alot but from what i read thats nothing compared to what losts of people take. AND IS THE AROMASIN FOR MY PCT ORAL??
 
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ya they do have alot of calories but the shit sux. im on my way way back now and i cant wait to start my cycle. so far this is what i got from you guys leme know if you see any other changes i could do. i appreciate the advice

Revised cycle:

week
1. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
2. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
3. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
4. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart + 40mg d-bol/day
5. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
6. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
7. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
8. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
9. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
10. 500mg test 250(250mg 2.5 days apart
11. 500mg test 250
12. 500mg test 250
13. natural workout
14. natural workout
15. begin pct


still need help on my pct.

pct
day 1 -21 Aromasin, during wholecycle and PCT

doseage?
oral?
schedule for aromasin?

suggestions:

* test 250 2x/week 250mg monday morning and 250mg thursday night.

* liv52 3x/day while on d-bol
 
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