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To what extent do you follow religion.
In other words, are you educated and able to think for yourself or are you a fucking retard?
What does your first sentence have to do with the second?
I read it as "if you are religious you are retarded"
My grandmother is very religious and it's because of the era she grew up in, so I can't hold it against her or people in her generation for being religious. After all, for generations and generations, religion was passed down not as a reference but as a tell all/end all way to live your life.
If the birth lottery placed you in Iran, you're going to be Muslim. If the birth lottery placed you in Israel, you're going to be a Jew. If the birth lottery placed you in a Catholic Boston, you're going to be Catholic.
Well, it's 2010 and the times have changed. Westernized countries allow people to think for themselves without being forced into thinking something based off of who your parents are, where you were born/where you live, etc.
It might not be in my lifetime, but within the next hundred years, Religion will be extinct. It's early uses, to educate and keep people moral and in line are no longer needed. It's become something that it never intended to become.
So yes, you heard me right, if you're 30 or under and have given your life to religion, you're an idiot who isn't able to think for yourself. If you're in the 31-60 range, it's a gray area, where the world was ever changing - being religious, believing in a higher power, etc. is acceptable based on the era you grew up in, but ignoring scientific fact and believing wholeheartedly in all that is religion is unacceptable. If you're older, you grew up in a time period where everything that you believe in is based solely on your parents, friends, and families beliefs, in which case, being a jesus freak is acceptable.
My grandmother is very religious and it's because of the era she grew up in, so I can't hold it against her or people in her generation for being religious. After all, for generations and generations, religion was passed down not as a reference but as a tell all/end all way to live your life.
If the birth lottery placed you in Iran, you're going to be Muslim. If the birth lottery placed you in Israel, you're going to be a Jew. If the birth lottery placed you in a Catholic Boston, you're going to be Catholic.
Well, it's 2010 and the times have changed. Westernized countries allow people to think for themselves without being forced into thinking something based off of who your parents are, where you were born/where you live, etc.
It might not be in my lifetime, but within the next hundred years, Religion will be extinct. It's early uses, to educate and keep people moral and in line are no longer needed. It's become something that it never intended to become.
So yes, you heard me right, if you're 30 or under and have given your life to religion, you're an idiot who isn't able to think for yourself. If you're in the 31-60 range, it's a gray area, where the world was ever changing - being religious, believing in a higher power, etc. is acceptable based on the era you grew up in, but ignoring scientific fact and believing wholeheartedly in all that is religion is unacceptable. If you're older, you grew up in a time period where everything that you believe in is based solely on your parents, friends, and families beliefs, in which case, being a jesus freak is acceptable.
I could care less what religion someone is as long as they are not hurting you, me, or someone else. I think, it's funny how many people are anti this or anti that when it's not doing anything to hurt them.
True. But religion hurts a lot of people, and as a human being, I have a problem with that.
I said as long as they are not hurting you, me, or someone else.
My parents made me go to church all the time when I was a kid and I hated it. However, I'm an adult now and can do what I want. I get sick of these people crying about how their parents made them go to church, etc., and they are anti-religion. Get over it.
If someone wants to spend all their money and time pouring it into their religion it's their own fault they can't find anything better to do. I just don't see how (in most cases) it's hurting me or you.
Civilizations have risen and fallen again and again, but religion keeps on going. I caught a pretty damn cool edition of Scientific American not long ago where they have pinpointed the god center of the brain. Most of us have genetic predisposition towards believing in a higher power. This area of the brain seems to serve just that purpose alone. Just like a math center for calculus nerds, or a writing center for story telling geniuses, we have are predisposed. The brighter way of looking at it is it gave human's one hell of an edge in the survival game at one time.
But, just like all of our other colorful attributes that causes mass scale suffering, it's time to let that part of ourselves go. In Alabama, I couldn't play a slot machine or buy beer because of some other person's hodgepodge of ancient neural circuitry getting in the way. Some towel head is willing to walk into a bus and murder hundreds of people because of it. People will let powerful men rape, murder, steal, and molest all because they fear to doubt their religion.
In this day and age if you follow a religion and believe that crap they serve up every sunday morning than you are an idiot. plain and simple.
I understand old people who have grown up with that shit shoved down their mouths and are now so close to kicking it that the belief that they will be going to heaven eases their fear of death. But any one under 60 who is not mentally retarded should see it for what it is, bullshit, lies, and the biggest scam of all time.
The Hamas movement educates the children in its schools, beginning in kindergarten, to believe that a martyr is given virgins in Paradise. Jack Kelley of USA Today visited Hamas schools in Gaza City, where he saw an 11-year-old boy speak to his class:
"I will make my body a bomb that will blast the flesh of Zionists, the sons of pigs and monkeys... I will tear their bodies into little pieces and will cause them more pain than they will ever know."
His classmates shouted in response, "Allah Akhbar," and his teacher shouted, "May the virgins give you pleasure." A 16-year-old Hamas youth leader in a Gaza refugee camp told Kelley, "Most boys can't stop thinking about the virgins."(19)
Along with the media, Palestinian Muslim clerics also help instill this belief. In an interview with the Egyptian daily Al-Ahram Al-Arabi, Palestinian Authority Mufti Sheikh 'Ikrima Sabri was asked what he felt when he prayed for the soul of a martyr. He answered:
"I feel that the martyr is lucky, because angels bring him to his wedding in Paradise... I spoke with one young man, who told me: 'I want to marry the black-eyed women in Paradise.' The next day, he died a martyr's death. I am certain that his mother was filled with joy over his heavenly wedding. Such a son is worthy of such a mother.'"
The suicide attackers who carried out the September 11 attacks also believed that 'the black-eyed' were one of the rewards awaiting them in Paradise. The letter of instructions found in Nawwaf Al-Hamzi's car mentioned 'the black-eyed' twice: "...Don't show signs of uneasiness and tension; be joyful and happy, set your mind at ease, and be confident and rest assured that you are carrying out an action that Allah likes and that pleases Him. Therefore, a day will come, Allah willing, that you will spend with 'the black-eyed' in Paradise... Know that the gardens [i.e. Paradise] have been decorated for you with the most beautiful ornaments and that 'the black-eyed' will call to you: 'Come, faithful of Allah," after having donned their finest garments."
In a review of the Egyptian press in the London daily Al-Quds Al-Arabi, the veteran Egyptian journalist Hasanain Kurum explained that Sheikh Tantawi knowingly gave a vague answer to the question, so as to avoid a scandal like the one created a few years previously by the late author and journalist Muhammad Galal Al-Kushk. Al-Kushk wrote,
"The men in Paradise have sexual relations not only with the women [who come from this world] and with 'the black-eyed,' but also with the serving boys." According to Kurum, Al-Kushk also stated, "In Paradise, a believer's penis is eternally erect."
I'm glad I was never made to go to church. I have family that is religious but it's something that was never pressured on me.
Well I've been blessed to not have been born in any of those hellholes you mention; I grew up Catholic in CT... but I have to say, I am 100% with you.
It's good in that it helps develop a moral compass, and undoubtedly some people NEED it, but I see it as a crutch.
Just my $.02.
To what extent do you follow religion.
In other words, are you educated and able to think for yourself or are you a fucking retard?
So now having faith, or believing in a higher power constitutes idiocy?
IMO (since you've asked), religions limit critical thinking and cause many people to do harmful things. We only need to look at history.
I'm really interested in this Scientific American because I don't believe it.
This is the biggest load of crock. There are many great scientist, who followed religion and were able to think outside of the religious context. People limit there critical thinking... not religion.
Might as well blame the gun for the murder, not the person for using it.
I see your point, Iain.
But religion can - and has - and does - limit critical thinking, yes, because individuals and groups allowed it to.
Wars, persecutions, etc.
It was in the "name" of a god.....