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This girl at my work has two master degrees and is working help desk, shit must suck.
Oh I know, I wasn't arguing with the first post was just saying it sucks but she has an education and business degree.Well, it would also depend on what you study too. Going into Law is just plain stupid unless you're going into top tier schools due to saturation.
What did she study?
what the hell is a "professional degree" ? Law, Accounting, Medicine etc?
Education might not pay off, but I can't see a downside.
Education might not pay off, but I can't see a downside.
How about the billions of dollars invested by students and taxpayers. Student loan debt has exceeded credit card debt. That doesn't even include scholarships and grants paid for by the taxpayer.
"The value of a thing sometimes does not lie in that which one attains by it, but in what one pays for it -- what it costs us." ~ Nietzsche
How about life long servitude spent paying off massive student loan debts for the rest of your life?
Getting a degree doesn't make you a good worker. It doesn't mold you into something businesses can use. It doesn't give you the drive to carve out a niche out for yourself. It simply opens doors for you, and allows you to reach your potential. If you don't have much potential, all the education in the world will not help you.
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What are you asking?
Not here. And, hey, at almost 49 "the rest of your life" isn't such a long time, I suspect.
And though I did take out some loans, I didn't enter the realm of idiocy.
I mean if someone has loans totaling more than one hundred grand? That's just outside my comfort zone.
Nothing. I was saying the 'downside' is the huge amount paid into something that in many cases does not pay off.
For sure, if you can get someone else to pick up the tab, it is a great idea to get an education.
And?
Do you find fault with someone setting a goal and reaching that goal by utilizing available resources?
Do you have an objection here?
I know that I am an asshole, but there was no sarcasm intended there.
Getting a degree doesn't make you a good worker. It doesn't mold you into something businesses can use. It doesn't give you the drive to carve out a niche out for yourself. It simply opens doors for you, and allows you to reach your potential. If you don't have much potential, all the education in the world will not help you.
Naturally, getting a degree improves your marketability. It tells employers that a person was willing to put up with years of nonstop horseshit in order to prove their worth by finishing what they start. You don't have to go to school to do this, but it is one method. The other method is to out work, out think, and out produce you co-workers, and hope you get noticed for it. Even then, if the company you work for goes belly up, you might have to do it all over again at another company
I don't have much sympathy for the Starbucks workers of America who have degrees in the arts and humanities. Just what in the fuck did those people think they were going to do with that? I want to feel bad for my buddy who get his masters in communication, and is stuck in a low paying dead-end job at a theme park, but I just can't. If you don't know what kind of career you want, spend a year thinking about it before jumping right into college. That shit is fucking expensive.
Naturally, getting a degree improves your marketability.
I don't have much sympathy for the Starbucks workers of America who have degrees in the arts and humanities.
Just what in the fuck did those people think they were going to do with that? I want to feel bad for my buddy who get his masters in communication, and is stuck in a low paying dead-end job at a theme park, but I just can't. If you don't know what kind of career you want, spend a year thinking about it before jumping right into college. That shit is fucking expensive.
Getting a degree doesn't make you a good worker. (snip)
out work, out think, and out produce you co-workers, and hope you get noticed for it. Even then, if the company you work for goes belly up, you might have to do it all over again at another company (snip)
Well said.
A degree gets your first real job and experience gets the jobs after that one.
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Out working and out producing your co-workers might seem effective, but won't always bring success.
Well said.
A degree gets your first real job and experience gets the jobs after that one.[/QUOTE
One would think. I moved a couple years ago, (nicer area) and switched over to teaching in a new school district. I was pinked after two years because of my years of experience. Cost the district almost twice as much to employ a teacher like me with years of experience (and a Masters degree) compared to a newbie. If I would have stayed in one district, I would have had seniority (tenure) and thus been immune from layoffs. Very frustrating.
Oh.
I'm a fan of sarcasm and always on the lookout for a good e-fight.
Semantics, okay, but I wouldn't call my grants an example of "pick up the tab" as much as payment for services. Five years in the military qualified me for a much higher grant payment than my civilian counterparts. A girl I dated received around fifty dollars the one semester. D'OH!