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keep protesting against people making money on and from wall street......my portfolio has increased since the protests began......thanks!!!

wait until the bond market crashes...you'll be crying...:roflmao:

did you factor in that the USD depreciates an average of 30% a decade? so if you are not earning at least much on your investments you aren't making any money in the long run..
 
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irish,

If you're not running you're own business and are an employee, and you're investing in the financial markets:

You are one of those 99 percent. You are indeed one of the occupy wall street, folks.

No one has faith in the USD, and the equity and bond markets are dicey, to say the least.

(Not only with US graft and mismanagment, but now especially with Europe.)
 
Short and to the point. Note the script at the end.
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irish,

If you're not running you're own business and are an employee, and you're investing in the financial markets:

You are one of those 99 percent. You are indeed one of the occupy wall street, folks.

No one has faith in the USD, and the equity and bond markets are dicey, to say the least.

(Not only with US graft and mismanagment, but now especially with Europe.)


streams of income bro......the only way to learn this is to own/run and the fail a business.....you can't become well off with just one stream...you need multiple streams of income....i did learn this on my own thru trial and error though so i'm a little late, but they were good lessons......

and i agree....more money can be made quicker in foreign markets, but there's quite a bit of risk involved so investing in forex is minimal for now......i'm not liquid by any means, but i've been able to make some nice moves recently and definitely put myself into a better position than owning properties and stocks, bonds, etc and losing my ass every month
 

actually the main problem is that american's are just plan bad at mathematics, analytical and critical thinking.

while it's not going to happen for many generations eventually all (vast majority) of the wealth in the country is going to end up in the hands of the top 1%. that's when the "real" socialism starts in the U.S. the means of production will not be controlled by the state but by the top 400-500 households in the US, this is when the real serfdom begins in America.
 
Sounds like millions of people need to stop buying iThings, ditch the $100/mo satellite bill, ditch the $100/mo smartphone bill(s), ditch the $50/mo DSL and stop going on vacations until they get their financial shit together because reality is the entitlements are going into bankruptcy so one better save for his future.

But I guess its easier to just blame and demand more $$$$$$$$ from the rich instead of doing something to better yourself. Everyone wants to be a victim nowadays thanks to Obama. :coffee: It's not my fault I'm in this situation, its some guys fault that lives on Park Avenue whom I've never met. :coffee:
 
Sounds like millions of people need to stop buying iThings, ditch the $100/mo satellite bill, ditch the $100/mo smartphone bill(s), ditch the $50/mo DSL and stop going on vacations until they get their financial shit together because reality is the entitlements are going into bankruptcy so one better save for his future.

you don't know jack squat about economics...the problem why certain entitlements will have future funding issues is because of the lack of good paying jobs and the loss of real income growth as productivity increases.

the baby boomers are the last generation that saw real incomes grow constantly as productivity increased over the decades, this was all lost beginning in the 80's. this is when the income/wage productivity gap started and is steadily increasing. high paying jobs being replaced by low wage jobs where there is no change of ever accumulating any wealth.

every-time there is a economic bubble that bursts wealth gets transferred up the ladder.
 
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you don't know jack squat about economics...the problem why certain entitlements will have future funding issues is because of the lack of good paying jobs and the loss of real income growth as productivity increases.

the baby boomers are the last generation that saw real incomes grow constantly as productivity increased over the decades, this was all lost beginning in the 80's. this is when the income/wage productivity gap started and is steadily increasing. high paying jobs being replaced by low wage jobs where there is no change of ever accumulating any wealth.

every-time there is a economic bubble that bursts wealth gets transferred up the ladder.


So you deny that millions and millions of paycheck to paycheck middle class families that aren't saving a dime for retirement much less a rainy day still afford themselves the luxuries of $100/mo cell phone bills, $100/mo cable, $50 pairs of blue jeans and $3000 annual vacations?
 
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Here's Peter Schiff and Cornel. Comments on both of their points?
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Peter D. Bunk.

These mutha phuqas are going to scratch and claw to try to keep things the same.

This guy And his Prez. W. Touted capitalism. But when the big banks were about to "fail" who bailed them out.

That's not capitalism, thats the perverted version of capitalism you want everyone to agree with.

Fuck you and all the capitalist pigs that are trying to bully and steam roll over the populace.

To you Smoothy,:winkfinger:
 
Oh, and I forgot to mention, D Bunk...

clean your dandruff off your lapel, you nasty mother fucker!

You fuckin Nazi, Freddie and Fannie..Seriously?
 
Stick a fork in those protestors because they are done. :coffee:


New York City police in riot gear swept into a Lower Manhattan park to remove Occupy Wall Street protesters early today following similar moves that shut camps in Oakland, California, and Portland, Oregon.

Police and the park???s owners told protesters at 1 a.m. local time to remove items including tents and sleeping bags, after which city workers cleared remaining belongings, Mayor Michael Bloomberg said in an e-mailed release. People can return to the park once the cleaning is finished, he said.

???Protesters -- and the general public -- are welcome there to exercise their First Amendment rights, and otherwise enjoy the park, but will not be allowed to use tents, sleeping bags, or tarps and, going forward, must follow all park rules,??? the mayor said in the statement.

Hundreds of protesters have slept in tents and under tarps since Sept. 17 in Zuccotti Park, which was both the birthplace of the protests against economic inequality and the physical symbol of the movement. The police operation came after organizers announced they would mark the two-month anniversary of the movement this week with plans to ???shut down Wall Street??? and ???occupy the subways.???

???Evict an Idea???

???Some politicians may physically remove us from public spaces -- our spaces,??? activists said in a statement released at 2:25 a.m. local time. ???You cannot evict an idea whose time has come.???

About 200 people were in the park when police using loudspeakers told protesters to leave or face arrest, said Chris Porter, 26, a welder from Indiana who joined the protest in the park about a month ago.

Police broke down tents and ???destroyed everything??? while forcibly removing protesters who had locked arms, he said. The Associated Press said about 70 people were arrested, citing Paul Browne, a police spokesman.

City cleaning crews in orange vests hauled away dumpsters full of the encampment???s remains.

???I have become increasingly concerned -- as had the park???s owner, Brookfield Properties -- that the occupation was coming to pose a health and fire safety hazard to the protesters and to the surrounding community,??? the mayor said in the release.

???Final Decision???

???We have been in constant contact with Brookfield and yesterday they requested that the city assist it in enforcing the no sleeping and camping rules in the park,??? Bloomberg said. ???But make no mistake -- the final decision to act was mine.???

The mayor is founder and majority owner of Bloomberg News parent Bloomberg LP.

The one-square block space hosted a medical tent, kitchen area serving three meals a day, library, comfort station doling out underwear, sweaters, pants and blankets, and tables offering media outreach and legal guidance.

Resident protesters at Zuccotti have evaded eviction and confrontation with New York police before. Thousands of people convened in the early morning hours of Oct. 14, leading Brookfield Office Properties Inc., the owner of the park, to postpone a scheduled cleaning.

Hundreds of protesters arrested last month during a demonstration on the Brooklyn Bridge are scheduled to start appearing in court today to face disorderly conduct charges.

900 Charged

More than 900 people have been charged in connection with the protests since mid-September, including about 700 arrested during the Oct. 1 bridge demonstration, according to police.

The demonstrators refer to themselves on signs and in slogans as ???the 99 percent,??? a reference to Nobel Prize- winning economist Joseph Stiglitz???s study showing the richest 1 percent control 40 percent of U.S. wealth.

Oakland police cleared a downtown encampment yesterday after a slaying on Nov. 10. Police in Portland evicted campers at Chapman and Lownsdale squares on Nov. 13 after two people suffered drug overdoses. Salt Lake City banned protesters from staying overnight at Pioneer Park on Nov. 11 after a person was found dead at the camp that morning.

???The people who originally founded the encampments are either no longer there or no longer in control,??? Oakland Mayor Jean Quan said yesterday in a telephone interview. ???In part of clearing the camp, we moved a lot of the homeless -- they were about half of the residents.???

Officials??? Concerns

Deaths, sexual assaults, drug dealing and theft in the tent cities threaten public safety, officials said. The camps have drawn the homeless, street youths and a criminal element, some officials said.

???In the past few days, the balance has tipped,??? Portland Mayor Sam Adams said in a Nov. 10 statement. ???We have experienced two very serious drug overdoses, where individuals required immediate resuscitation in the camp.???

When protesters began camping in Portland on Oct. 6, ???the groups that day were people who have been committed to the movement,??? Sergeant Pete Simpson, a spokesman for the Portland Police Bureau, said yesterday in a telephone interview. ???Then those people started leaving and the homeless population and street youth began moving in.???

The camps have cropped up in cities nationwide to protest economic disparity. Demonstrators decry high foreclosures and unemployment rates that plague average Americans while large bonuses were issued by U.S. banks after they accepted a taxpayer-funded bailout.

Philadelphia Mayor

In Philadelphia, Mayor Michael Nutter said on Nov. 13 that the city ???must re-evaluate??? its dealings with Occupy Philly after numerous reports of thefts and assaults at the group???s tent city on Dilworth Plaza outside City Hall.

Since Oct. 6, emergency medical services have made 15 runs to the camp and a woman reported a rape Nov. 12, he said at a news briefing. Nutter said he???s asked for additional police in the area.

Many of the initial leaders that the city dealt with have since left and the group is fractured, Nutter said. The mayor said he wants to avoid confrontation with the movement and agrees with them on issues such as unemployment, poverty and bank lending.

???Now we???re at a critical point where we must re-evaluate our entire relationship with this very changed group,??? he said.

To contact the reporters on this story: Alison Vekshin in San Francisco at avekshin@bloomberg.net; Esme E. Deprez in New York at edeprez@bloomberg.net
 
Stick a fork in those protestors because they are done.

I don't care about the "protesters."

It's the mentality that matter to me.

The stiffs - working and middle class folks - that get up and try to hustle a buck everyday for their families and debts are too busy.

It's these people, that the Gov and Elitist establishment wants to keep working (occupied).
 
They are done in Portland too. finally. Even the mayor that supported their cause had to get rid of them.

Over 70 arrests including a couple of sexual assaults. Over $200 k in taxpayer money for the extra cops and then they smashed out a two thousand dollar bank window the day after they were kicked out of the park. Like it was going to help their cause.

Not to mention the parks are totally destroyed and un-usable by people with jobs that pay taxes. Occupy a desk
 
Most of you (talking about 99% of the population) fail to see the big picture. This (elite that try to control society) has been going on for longer than you can imagine. There was always a aristocrat and peasant class. Nothing has changed except now we have a middle class.

These people control the economy by controlling the money. We are on a fiat-based money system that doesn't work. The FED controls the money by printing billion's and the top 1% get "loans" from them. Yes, that is how OUR economy works. But the TV won't tell you this. The elite own the television also. Again, this is not a Democrat or Reb debate. They control both sides. It is a dualistic illusion. They create problems and then a struggle, then they come in and say we have the solution. Print more money.

We need to do what the Japs did as someone already posted. AUDIT these motherfucker's and follow the money trail. End lobbying and regulate better. Have smaller banks that give back to the community.

Most people only care about themselves and stick their head in the sand. This gives the elite the power to create the smoke screens that keeps the illusion of wealth going. But it only goes into their hands.

What they have done is devalue the dollar. Now people struggle to pay their bills and they are sick of this kind of living. So they protest. They don't know exactly what's going on but they are getting to the point where they are pissed off. We need a peaceful protest like in the 70's. Where we say enough is enough and take back control of our finances.

Think about this for a second. All those banks create money out of thin air. Then they stick it to the working American's to pay the bills. Not only American's this is a GLOBAL problem. We have to demand that we are NOT RESPONSIBLE for their reckless spending and investments. Wipe the debt clean and start over. It worked in the biblical day's.

There would be a transition period. The other altervative is people get to the point where RIOTS start to occur and the whole system crumbles and it will be more painful. We can use our heads or get pissed and use brawn or get educated and take UNITED action.


It is heartbreaking seeing these young people who are willing to DIE for their country but don't understand the basic's of how their country work's. It pains me that some take a stance either REP or DEM and vote but really will not bring the desired reality to their country. It pains me more to see these people arguing which is precisely what the elite want.
 
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Do people realize that John D Rockefeller died with an estimated worth of 1.5-1.8% of the U.S economy? That equates to anywhere from 400-600+ BILLION. That is a potential net worth 8 times Bill Gates.
Oh wait... It is only recently that the distribution of wealth has been shifting towards the rich. Haha I call bullshit.
 
The elite are part of the original fallen angels, who try to control every aspect (banking, media, education, churches) of life on planet earth. They refuse to serve and are selfish beyond belief.
 
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Do people realize that John D Rockefeller died with an estimated worth of 1.5-1.8% of the U.S economy? That equates to anywhere from 400-600+ BILLION. That is a potential net worth 8 times Bill Gates.
Oh wait... It is only recently that the distribution of wealth has been shifting towards the rich. Haha I call bullshit.


Haha. 2nd that bullshit.
 
The elite are part of the original fallen angels, who try to control every aspect (banking, media, education, churches) of life on planet earth. They refuse to serve and are selfish beyond belief.


Have you ever gone to the Getty? Pretty sure that was donated by an "elite" man. It now is the largest collection of the worlds art, and historical documents.
 
Do people realize that John D Rockefeller died with an estimated worth of 1.5-1.8% of the U.S economy? That equates to anywhere from 400-600+ BILLION. That is a potential net worth 8 times Bill Gates.
Oh wait... It is only recently that the distribution of wealth has been shifting towards the rich.

Yeah, he was great. He made kerosene affordable to the poor for lighting and heating.
 
Yeah, he was great. He made kerosene affordable to the poor for lighting and heating.

But BP2000 doesn't agree. He says they are selfish, and refuse to serve.
 
considering an Occupy Strip Club movement......them bitches are taking too much of our money.....
 
But BP2000 doesn't agree. He says they are selfish, and refuse to serve.

I didn't read his post but Rockefeller gave shit tons to schools, founded an institute for medical research, and all kinds of shit.
 
Do people realize that John D Rockefeller died with an estimated worth of 1.5-1.8% of the U.S economy? That equates to anywhere from 400-600+ BILLION. That is a potential net worth 8 times Bill Gates.
Oh wait... It is only recently that the distribution of wealth has been shifting towards the rich. Haha I call bullshit.

Rockefeller wealth was equal to 1/65 of US GDP and Gates is about 1/152. income inequality has always existed in the US and all capitalist societies but the rapidly shrinking middle class in the US is only occurring here and not in other large wealthy heavily industrialized countries in the OECD with democratic party's that are polarized. this tells is it's a function of economic policy and not simple the natural evolution of capitalism in the OECD.
 
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