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Haven't juiced in over a year yet developing gyno all the sudden!!!! Help

doubleduecedonzi

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Aight fellas,I'm 24 years old about 185 pounds. Pretty stocky and built, naturally thanks to gene's in not lean but stocky.idk if that would insinuate I have a naturally higher test level than most!? Which might relate to my in unprovoked issue with Gino...
I have taken plenty if cycles over the year's and I'm always prone to get gyno. I also had issues whith gyno as a teenager while going thru puberty yet understand its typical to to develop knots in the breast at that stage.
Right now its mild/not noticeable I do not have bitch tits! Lol it started out in my right breast ass a small knot the size of a bb then has grown slightly larger and spread to my left over the past week and a half.
As of December I've been going thru a divorce I had quit working out months prior and had gained about 15 pounds. Since then I'm back in the gym lost 20 pounds I am training hard, yet lost that weight in a month and 1/2 mostly from stress and not eating (stay'd natty, only taken jacked and protein no boosters). I'm back eatin yet haven't trained much in 3 weeks due to my new schedule.the mess I take are aderall and som type of antidepressant/ anger outburst med! I've always been on the addy since a child! Started the anti depressant in December and stop taken about three weeks before the gyno shows up.
Why the fuck is this gyno randomly showing up! I have some CEM tamox laying around and plan to use it today! Should I use standees pct protocol on the dosage even thow I haven't ran any gear!? Please give me advice and resin why this is an issue!?
 
You would need hormonal labs for the best advice but Nolva at 20 mg daily is commonly prescribed for gyno treatment.
 
LABS ASAP!

See your doctor right away. There is no excuse for waiting.
Heavy gave you good advice and as knowledgeable as he is, I'm sure he would also advise seeing your physician.

Are you taking meds for hypertension?
Quite a number of them...Lisinopril, Metoprolol, Amlodipine, etc. can cause gyno.
I am sure many other classes of meds can as well.

Look up side effects for any prescriptions or supplements you're using right now.
 
Doctor bro. Don't even mention you have ever cycled, just tell him you have gotten knots in your nipples and see what the doctor recommends.
 
thanks for the advice fellas. I'm getting the vibe that this Is quite a strange situation! Wich I already figured.I plan to get labs Asap and I'll see my doc! Only problem is i have spoke with two different doctors in the past, on some previous anabolic sides I was experiencing. One of them was a small knot in my right breast, his reply " it's probably just some access estrogen and should go away". Well doc, I ain't got time to be sporting a new set of tits on the lake based on your uneducated advice! Docs are seem clueless "around here" about underground anabolic gear and pct procedure goes. I tried to explain some basic/standard bro science on pct. like how we treat gyno with A medicine used to treat Brest cancer in women. He was quite shocked and completely lost as to what I was saying. I'll try a new doc.
by the way the the anti depressant I was on, is called fluoxetine.
I know most use nolva but in the past I had better luck with liquid letro. like I said all I have at hand is Some CEM liquid tamox for now!
 
doubleduecedonzi said:
by the way the the anti depressant I was on, is called fluoxetine.
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From:
http://www.drugs.com/sfx/fluoxetine-side-effects.html

Some side effects of fluoxetine may occur that usually do not need medical attention. These side effects may go away during treatment as your body adjusts to the medicine. Also, your health care professional may be able to tell you about ways to prevent or reduce some of these side effects. Check with your health care professional if any of the following side effects continue or are bothersome or if you have any questions about them:

More common
  • Decreased appetite
Less common or rare
  • Abnormal dreams
  • breast enlargement or pain
 
doubleduecedonzi said:
thanks for the advice fellas. I'm getting the vibe that this Is quite a strange situation! Wich I already figured.I plan to get labs Asap and I'll see my doc! Only problem is i have spoke with two different doctors in the past, on some previous anabolic sides I was experiencing. One of them was a small knot in my right breast, his reply " it's probably just some access estrogen and should go away". Well doc, I ain't got time to be sporting a new set of tits on the lake based on your uneducated advice! Docs are seem clueless "around here" about underground anabolic gear and pct procedure goes. I tried to explain some basic/standard bro science on pct. like how we treat gyno with A medicine used to treat Brest cancer in women. He was quite shocked and completely lost as to what I was saying. I'll try a new doc.
by the way the the anti depressant I was on, is called fluoxetine.
I know most use nolva but in the past I had better luck with liquid letro. like I said all I have at hand is Some CEM liquid tamox for now!
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The Meds u spoke of fluoxetine is Prozac and say it can cause low sex drive and gyno is a common side
 
Paranoid F, you've been a lot of help and Thanks for taking the time, I appreciate!
So I realize it's not a fact. however it seems most likely the fluoxetine is to blaim.
So say it is the cause, Wouldn't that mean it's causing my body to produce more estrogen? I guess technically you could say it caused me to produce more test now it's converting....hah! Shit fellas, idk. When you feel the gyno knots coming it's always unnerving. but when you can't explain why, it'll make you nervous. Thanks for the input.
 
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Yo bro I would order the letro in the meantime.. I suffered from gyno a couple years ago & I felt I was a lil too late, but honestly I had two nice nickel sized lumps under my nips that hurt like a bitch lying down and when accidentally hitting them. The letro took it away completely after 2 bottles but did suffer from some mad side effects... lethargic, no happiness, could careless about anyone.. loner status stuff it was a trip (lasted about a week to two weeks). I take luvox for mild ocd symptoms and supposed to be taking 100mg, which obviously works a lot better but because I don't have insurance I cut it in 50mg and then in 25mg. (I didn't get gyno from the ocd meds...) Just start lowering your dose, because It messed with my libido by making it hard for me to bust a nut when having sex.. and by lowering it, I have just come to realize and accustomed to when my ocd sides kick in I just get over them... I tend to over analyze stuff, multiple thoughts at a time and have social anxiety but the 25mg is working well.. less is more I guess and healthier I assume haha. Good luck man, the shit sucks for sure. Stay positive brother! When one door closes another opens! Out with the old girl, in with the new ;)
 
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Prozac blocks dopamine (and increases seratonin). Dopamine has an inverse relationship with prolactin (lower dopamine=higer levels of prolactin). Prolactin can upregulate e receptors in breast tissue. Thats why it causes gyno. Your doing the right thing taking tamox, id actually recommend ralox but def get bloodwork.
 
Thanks for all your help fella's! It's greatly appreciated... Hopefully getting bloodwork this week
 
Ok guys I got the blood results back. My doc says my test and estrogen are elevated and is referring me to a specialist thatmore familiar with these types of things. Iv only spoke to the nurse over the phone and wrote down what he read out to me. Test=800 estrogen=109 prolactin= 6.1 I ask what these numbers represent and the nurse replied he didn't know. I'm really getting hung out to dry. I've been taking the liquid tamox for several weeks and was one it about two weeks before blood was drawn @40mgs a day. It's ain't doin shit for me. I have no idea if any if these levels are high I really need someone to chime in as my gyno is progressing! Btw the tamox is CEM and rode around in my truck for half the winter. Maybe it no good!?
 
Ok guys I got the blood results back. My doc says my test and estrogen are elevated and is referring me to a specialist thatmore familiar with these types of things. Iv only spoke to the nurse over the phone and wrote down what he read out to me. Test=800 estrogen=109 prolactin= 6.1 I ask what these numbers represent and the nurse replied he didn't know. I'm really getting hung out to dry. I've been taking the liquid tamox for several weeks and was one it about two weeks before blood was drawn @40mgs a day. It's ain't doin shit for me. I have no idea if any if these levels are high I really need someone to chime in as my gyno is progressing! Btw the tamox is CEM and rode around in my truck for half the winter. Maybe it no good!?
 
doubleduecedonzi said:
Ok guys I got the blood results back. My doc says my test and estrogen are elevated and is referring me to a specialist thatmore familiar with these types of things. Iv only spoke to the nurse over the phone and wrote down what he read out to me. Test=800 estrogen=109 prolactin= 6.1 I ask what these numbers represent and the nurse replied he didn't know. I'm really getting hung out to dry. I've been taking the liquid tamox for several weeks and was one it about two weeks before blood was drawn @40mgs a day. It's ain't doin shit for me. I have no idea if any if these levels are high I really need someone to chime in as my gyno is progressing! Btw the tamox is CEM and rode around in my truck for half the winter. Maybe it no good!?
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Caber controls prolactin, AI controls estro. Serm just blocks estro receptors but doesnt lower estro. Good gyno regiment is letro and tamox. Sounds like the dr should investigate to find why levels are jacked to fix problem. Good luck man!
 
800 test is pretty amazing. Estro is too high. 20-40 is sweet spot
 
If the tamox was out in the cold like that it may be bad but it takes longer than a few weeks for it to work. Gyno studies using tamox run for 6 months and it takes 8 weeks or so to start to see a difference. If you are lucky after 3 months you will be good. If not you may need to run it longer. If I were yu wince you arent sure if you tamox is damaged from the cold I would buy some Raloxifene, it is the best gyno treatment there is...hands down.
CEM just got it back in stock. Run it at 60mg/day.
 
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