I have never tried Tbol before but I decided to give it a shot because I had heard great things. well after trying it from DS I have found my favorite oral. my strength has shot up through the roof and my weight has barely budged, and best of all virtually no sides when I dose 30-40mg a day. I didn't need to run a ridiculous dosage to achieve strength gains.. pumps are incredible, I can barely drive home. vascularity is the best its ever been.