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gauge of syringes?? help

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Whats the best gauge to inject with 23? 25? 27? Also where can I order from??? Advice please and thank you
 
18 to draw 25 to pin. I'll pm you where I get them $13.95 for 100 3mlx25x5/8
 
5/8 seems a bit small dont you think? For glutes shouldnt it be 1" or just 1" all around? I heard 1 1/2 inch but im a skinny guy an that seems kinda unnecessary. Im pretty sure the last ones I used was an inch I can't remember tho
 
Your questions have been asked and answered many times on this forum.

I use Exel syringes from:
https://www.medical-and-lab-supplies.com/

I draw with a 21g and switch to a 23g or 25g to pin with.
1" should be sufficient for most people. There are guys who like the 1 1/2" for glutes but I don't notice any difference myself.
Z track your injections and you shouldn't have to deal with leakage.
 
These days I use an 18 to draw and a 25 x 1" to pin.
 
What these guys said. Liberal use of Alcohol swabs, and take your time... search, search, search.
 
Im switching to 5/8 27 gauge from 1 inch 25 myself. couldn't pin delts towards the end of the last cycle
 
As a standard I agree with all the other posters: 18g to draw, 25g to pin, 1" length (1.5" for glute).

After a while and gaining a lot of experience, and depending on your BF%, you may choose other sizes/gauges.

For me I like to draw from the vial with a 20g needle (18g starts to chew up the stopper for me).
- inject with 23g (25g is too slow for me, it's oil after all).
- 1" needle for all injects over 1ml (including glutes for me)
- 5/8" for 1ml or less injects (excluding glutes)

YMMV
 
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23g to draw
25g 1" pin to inject
My doc gave me one shot and I swear he used a 18g
 
21 guage to extract 27g 1/2" to pin everywhere besides glutes
 
23ga 1" to draw, 1/2" 27ga to pin pecs or 25ga 1" to pin quads or lats

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Always used 23. Needles don't bother me much.
 
I use 23g 1.5. I ended up cutting one of the caps in half and use it as a stop, so i dont have to put the entire needle in.
 
I use 3cc with 1" 18ga to draw. Switch needle too 1.5" 23ga to shoot. There is a method to the madness using the 1.5". If you only insert the needle to about 1" and aspirate then draw blood you can insert the final .5" and re aspirate. If the second aspiration is good let it her rip! This has saved me re pinning a few times.

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I use 22 gauge, 1in from gpz services. They are located in florida and fast shipping. You get a hundred needles for 10 bucks. Not bad and shipping is cheap. Used them a few times. They are gtg.
 
I use 3cc with 1" 18ga to draw. Switch needle too 1.5" 23ga to shoot. There is a method to the madness using the 1.5". If you only insert the needle to about 1" and aspirate then draw blood you can insert the final .5" and re aspirate. If the second aspiration is good let it her rip! This has saved me re pinning a few times.

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In my opinion, there is no need to aspirate once, much less twice.
 
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Once you inject into a vein/artery you might regret that. Better to be safe than sorry or worse, dead.

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Uh huh. I've been lifting for over 30 years, and injected hundreds of times. Not only have I never hit an artery, nobody I know has either. Not too common with intra-muscular injections.
 
Uh huh. I've been lifting for over 30 years, and injected hundreds of times. Not only have I never hit an artery, nobody I know has either. Not too common with intra-muscular injections.

Hitting an artery would be tough but a vein? Not that hard at all. If your shoulder injecting the cephalic vein is of concern, if your injecting flutes the deep femoral vein can be hit. They are less than 1/2" diameter in most cases so I'm sure you'll be fine...

I think I'll steer clear of the Russian roulette and keep taking the extra 2 seconds to aspirate.

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Hitting an artery would be tough but a vein? Not that hard at all. If your shoulder injecting the cephalic vein is of concern, if your injecting flutes the deep femoral vein can be hit. They are less than 1/2" diameter in most cases so I'm sure you'll be fine...

I think I'll steer clear of the Russian roulette and keep taking the extra 2 seconds to aspirate.

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You do know that you can still hit a vein when aspirating, right? Plus, medical science researches these things. Aspirating for IM injections has been out of favor for a long time. Feel free to do what you like, just understand that it is not necessary, or recommended.

To aspirate or not to aspirate? The latest evidence on
intramuscular injection techniques
Vangilder, M. and Walden, A.
ABSTRACT
Rationale
According to the CDC, more than 20 immunizations are recommended for
children prior to their eighteenth birthday and adults may receive a
number of intramuscular (IM) injections throughout their remaining
lifetime. Since many shots are given via IM technique, nurses should
know the latest research on methods to make the experience safe,
effective, and as painless as possible for patients of all ages. Aspiration,
or drawing back on a syringe to check for blood prior giving an injection
into muscular tissue, has been a standard practice taught in nursing
programs for decades. The authors reviewed current literature to
determine if this practice is backed by evidence-based studies. To narrow
the scope of research, a focus on aspiration’s effect on pain was selected.

Objective

This study was conducted to determine the latest scientific evidence
regarding the pain effects of aspirating prior to administering an
intramuscular injection to children.

Methods

A meta-analysis literature review of evidence-based practice studies and
practice guidelines from the last 10 years was conducted.

Results

A variety of study types were found including meta-analysis, randomized
controlled trials, quantitative studies, descriptive studies, and current
practice guidelines. These studies all agreed, regardless of study type,
that the practice with the best outcome and least amount of pain was
quick administration of an intramuscular injection without aspiration. In
addition, several studies reviewed current nursing practices to find that
many still use the outdated standards of aspiration. It was also found that
with proper education, nurses can and will change their injection practice
to mirror current guidelines.

Conclusions

Although the authors were most interested in aspiration’s effects on
injection-related pain, other injection technique evidence-based
information was also gathered. Literature review conclusions were:
• A rapid IM injection technique without aspiration results in less
pain.
• Aspiration does not confirm correct needle placement.
• As a result, aspiration is not a recommended procedure for IM
injections in any age group.
 
No one aspirates in clinical settings any longer. Its unnecessary if you are familiar with vascular anatomy and know how to give an injection properly.

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Must be doing it wrong then because I have pulled back blood from being in a vein. Aspirating saved me from possible stroke or pulmonary embolism but hey!! Knock your socks off fellas

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I have them bleed occasionally. Grab a towel and push down hard and you're gtg
 
I aspirate and I've pulled blood and injected anyway because I didn't notice I pulled any blood. This morning I saw the blood and injected anyway, I'm not dead yet. Will report back if I do ;)

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