Does anyone here have either Hypo or Hyper Thyroid Dysfunction?

[Johnnny]

I was wondering does anyone here have either Hypo or Hyper Thyroid Dysfunction?

 

[Vieope]

I often see people complaining about that, tyroid problem. It is like some "conditions" that only developed countries have, like: concussion, "sugar high", hyperventilating .. most of our population is not aware of these things, it is a shame.
I think that if you choke here nobody will know how to do a heimlich maneuver

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Sorry for the rant, I will look on the net what it is about but I think that if you hit the search button for "tyroid" here on IM you will find some posts.

 

[Johnnny]

Actually you forgot to type the "h" in thyroid. I was curious if other members here had either hypo or hyper thyroid dysfuntion. Many ppl don't even know they had it. Someone I know who went out with an ex of mine told me she lost a lot of weight, was always tired & depressed & very edgey ready to blow up at any second, along with hot flashes. This is definitely hyper thyroid which is what I've been treated for with Iodine in August. Hyper thyroid is when your body is getting too much of the thyroid hormone & weight loss is almost inevidable. As hypo thyroid is when your body isn't producing enough thyroid hormone, neither are good for athletes & ppl looking to build up size/power. Iodine with enough dosage shuts the thyroid down completely but it takes as much as 6 months to fully take effect. As it did me, & then synthroid (man made throid hormone) is given to replace the hormone & is better controlled. Before this for almost 3yrs I was on a $50 medication called Tapazole which is for Hyper thyorid patients & is given to help bring the your thyroid down to an equalibrium but as much as 2-3 pills a day are needed & it's expensive. This way post Iodine I take one synthroid pill a day & my throid gland is much better controlled. Take care.

 

[Vieope]

How do they diagnose it ? How do they found out who has it ?

 

[Johnnny]

Vieope your family doctor should perform a TSH blood test (specifically to test the levels of your thyroid) every year. If you feel the symptoms of hyper thyroid: feeling of being burnt out physicall 24/7, sweating all the time even when not doing anything, losing weight at a fast rate, always tired & having to sleep 10-15hrs a day, extremly heavy eyes, increased appetite & still losing weight, & no energy & very weak, depression, the feeling like any little thing could set you off. These are the most common hyper thyroid symptoms.

Hypo thyroid symptoms that I know of: inability of losing body fat, gaining body fat very easily, depression, fatigue & no energy, weak, the need to sleep frequently. I know there's more but these are the most common symptoms

Both thyroid dysfunctions can share some of the same symptoms. But neither dysfunction is good for anyone. Especially an athelete at any level or even the average Joe trying to strength & build up his or her body or tighten up & lose body fat from his or her body. Only a TSH blood test or a thyroid scan directly can detect the problem. But your doctor has to order it. If anyone here feels any of these symptoms you should ask to get your thyroid gland checked.

 

[Vieope]

Thanks Johnnny

 

[MeatZatk]

Yep, I also have a hypothyroid and was told to take synthroid. I feel like I have a little more energy now but other than that not much different. The way I found out was when I told my doctor that I had little to no sex drive and I'm only 23. He ran a couple of blood tests and discovered that I had low testosterone which affected my thyroid or vice-verca. My sex drive hasn't come back up all that much even though my blood tests show more balanced thyroid and testosterone levels. Anyone have advice on how to fix this little problem?

 

[Johnnny]

MeatZatk sorry to hear about your thyroid problems. I have hypo thyroid because in August I was given a big dose of Iodine which shut my thyroid down as I was suffering from hyper thyroid caused by the ephedrine/ephedra/fat burners containing these herbal form compounds. I'm glad your levels are normal, but you should talk to your doctor about your sex drive & tell him how much problems it's causing you. I don't want to recommend anything as they could have an effect on your thyroid. I was taking Tapazole which helps to bring the thyroid down from really high to the equalibrium level. But it is more expensive & you have to take it more often so that's why they gave me Iodine treatment & now 8 months later I've been on synthroids for almost 4 months.

Also you can have what's called a thyroid scan if they have problems checking your thyroid levels via blood tests.

 

[Jodi]

I have been both hypo and hyper.

I started as hypo and went on synthroid then it mysteriously jumped to hyper and stayed that way for quite some time. I was also on tapazole. After a year of tapazole my thyroid went back down to normal. I've been fine since and that was a few years ago.

 

[Johnnny]

Your thyroid I'm sure jumped to hyper thyroid after the synthroid becasue they probably gave you too much synthroid. They had to adjust my synthroid 3 times before it started to stay normal. Same with Tapazole, they had to adjust the medication so many times before it became normal. That's why I had Iodine then synthroid. It's just a matter of getting the right dosage of your medication.

 

[Fit Freak]

I'm in the process of being tested for Hypothyroidism...blood work tomorrow morning.

The above info is correct in the sense that many of the symptoms between Hyper and Hypothyroidism overlap. It shouldn't be taked lightly.

Another huge issue is that many times it goes undiagnosed by docs since they treat symptoms (such as depression or sleep disorders) versus the underlying problem (overactive or inactive thyroid).

 

[Johnnny]

I found I had insomnia with when my thyroid was hyper before I knew. I started taking those over the counter sleep aids that contained what gravol does to make you drowsy. 4 weeks later I was on 4 pills a night just to get some sleep.

Yes you are right that there are many similar symptoms between hypo & hyper thyroidism. I've experienced depression with both. In the fall my hyper thyroid became hypo due to the Iodine treatment & I was depressed for a few months this fall.

But fatigue & lack of energy are symptoms of both thyroid dysfunctions.

 

[MissOz]

One of my PT Clients had.. and still does have Hypothyroidism..she's medicated ..but struggles along sometimes , otherwise she just lives with it..xx

 

[Johnnny]

MissOz yes having thyroid dysfunctions of either kind puts a huge dent in your training & your physical shape & size as well as fat loss. Mentally it really screws you up as you train hard & diet & you don't grow or you have trouble losing fat depending on what type of thyroid dysfunction the person has.

 

[MissOz]

Yes I understand Johnnny....but always remain positive my friend and thank the good lord above !! for your overall health and happiness..xx

 

[Johnnny]

I do as my mother is ill with Lupus in the hospital & has been there for 20yrs. But it's hard to keep positive as thyroid problems can put a huge halt to your improvements physically. I'm just glad things seem to be getting better now after 4yrs of treatment.

 

[usntoothfairy]

Johnny and to all who have been diagnosed with Hypo, what diet has been prescribed for the condition.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Originally posted by Johnnny
MeatZatk sorry to hear about your thyroid problems. I have hypo thyroid because in August I was given a big dose of Iodine which shut my thyroid down as I was suffering from hyper thyroid caused by the ephedrine/ephedra/fat burners containing these herbal form compounds.

So you were Iodine deficient which caused a thyroid problem?

Lemme ask ya something. When you were using these thermos, did you also remove salt from your diet?

 

[bandaidwoman]

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
So you were Iodine deficient which caused a thyroid problem?

Lemme ask ya something. When you were using these thermos, did you also remove salt from your diet?

He probably had radioactive iodine ablation of his thyroid.

It's interesting, too little iodine inhibits thyroid production but so can too much. In fact, in a thyrotoxic state, we use Lugol's solution, very concentrated iodine solution, to suppress the thyroid gland completely using the wolff-chaikoff effect.

That's why one of the armeterium against nuclear fallout is too ingest large doses of iodine so as to supress uptake of the nuclear material into your thyroid by shutting it down "temporarily" .

 

[Johnnny]

Dale Mabry if you can read or knew anything about the thyroid I wasn't Iodine deficient which you claim caused my thyroid problem.

Again Ephedrine/ephedra & fatburners containing these herbal forms of these compounds increases the amount of T3 &T4 production in your body. These 2 hormones are the thyroid hormones. In my case & the case of 2 other users I know their T3 & T4 levels remained high even after they stopped using these supplements. Therefore we developed hyper-thyroid as a direct cause of these supplements.

I was on Tapazole, a medication to help bring down thyroid levels to an equalibrium. But it was expensive & even though it was doing a descent job, the endocrinologist wanted to give me a better treatment that could control your thyroid much better.

Therefore to shut my thyroid hormone production down, they gave me Iodine. Iodine shuts down thyroid production if given enough of a dose. The endocrinologist had to wait almost 6 months before putting me on synthroid (man made thyroid hormone) as I needed it because I had no thyroid treatment after the Iodine therapy. This way the endocrinologist can better treat me & make sure my thyroid stays normal more efficiently & the synthroids are much less expensive.

So hopefully you can read this & understand it. I've clearified everything so it's easier to understand for you.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Originally posted by Johnnny
Dale Mabry if you can read or knew anything about the thyroid I wasn't Iodine deficient which you claim caused my thyroid problem.

Again Ephedrine/ephedra & fatburners containing these herbal forms of these compounds increases the amount of T3 &T4 production in your body. These 2 hormones are the thyroid hormones. In my case & the case of 2 other users I know their T3 & T4 levels remained high even after they stopped using these supplements. Therefore we developed hyper-thyroid as a direct cause of these supplements.

I was on Tapazole, a medication to help bring down thyroid levels to an equalibrium. But it was expensive & even though it was doing a descent job, the endocrinologist wanted to give me a better treatment that could control your thyroid much better.

Therefore to shut my thyroid hormone production down, they gave me Iodine. Iodine shuts down thyroid production if given enough of a dose. The endocrinologist had to wait almost 6 months before putting me on synthroid (man made thyroid hormone) as I needed it because I had no thyroid treatment after the Iodine therapy. This way the endocrinologist can better treat me & make sure my thyroid stays normal more efficiently & the synthroids are much less expensive.

So hopefully you can read this & understand it. I've clearified everything so it's easier to understand for you.

I was asking you a question numbnuts, not diagnosing your problem.

I have forgotten more about the thyroid than you will ever learn. I know why your doctor gave you an overdose of Iodine because the negative feedback loop would in your pituitary slowing secretion of TSH which would in turn slow down your T4/T3 production. Having a thyroid condition does not make you an expert on the thyroid.

I also have never seen a study showing a relation between ephedra and T3 or T4. There are some showing Tyrosine and the guggulsterones have an effect on these hormones and these are found in most thermogenic compounds.

Finally, if you are going to insult someone's intelligence in a post, make sure you don't show your own ignorance. It is clarified, not clearified, retard.

You obviously have no idea how to form a solid argument. You should not be giving advice in this section. Again, having a thyroid problem does not make you an expert on the workings of the thyroid.

Finally, the symptoms you list for thyroid problems are symptoms associated with hundreds of maladies, not just thyroid problems.

 

[Dale Mabry]

Hey bandaidwoman, I have a question. What is the likelihood that someone would have his or her thyroid tested every year from age 8 on and not have either a family history of thyroid problems or evidence of a thyroid problem themself?

 

[V Player]

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
Finally, if you are going to insult someone's intelligence in a post, make sure you don't show your own ignorance. ..... You obviously have no idea how to form a solid argument. ... You should not be giving advice in this section. .... having a thyroid problem does not make you an expert on the workings of the thyroid.

*shakes off feelings of dejavu*....now where have I seen this before....(?)

 

[Johnnny]

Did I ever say I was an expert? No, but you seem to think you are an endocrinologist or something. You also think you are an english professor as well. I've seen you make a few spelling mistakes, so who gives a crap. I've been studying the thyroid for almost 4yrs since I found out I had a problem due to the ephedrine/ephedra supplements. & it's obvious you didn't take the time to read why I had Iodine treatment or you would not have posted that reply.

As for the symptoms I listed, those symptoms were directly given to me by my endocrinologist herself instead of someone such as yourself (not even going to bother explaining not worth it).

& as for getting blood tests every annual check up since I was around 8 well I know many ppl who have this done to make sure everything including the thyroid is functioning properly even if they don't have problems. My doctor has been taking several blood tests every year including the TSH test in order to make sure everything was working properly. I'm glad to have a family doctor such as mine.

Lastly since you don't have a thyroid problem & don't seem to have anything intelligent to say, than I'd appreciate it if you don't respond anymore to this thread. This thread was started for ppl who have or have had thyroid dysfunctions. After all look at the title.

 

[V Player]

Originally posted by Johnnny
Lastly since you don't have a thyroid problem & don't seem to have anything intelligent to say, than I'd appreciate it if you don't respond anymore to this thread. This thread was started for ppl who have or have had thyroid dysfunctions. After all look at the title.

*translation: if you're not gonna agree with to me, you cant play in my sandbox!

 

[Dale Mabry]

If you have been researching the thyroid for 4 yrs then you would know that there is probably no relation between your thyroid problem and ephedra. You may have had a pre-existing condition that could have exacerbated it, but you say you have been getting TSH tests or thyroid scans since you were 8. If you indeed were given thyroid scans since you were 8, I would wonder why the Dr. would continually bombard you with radioactive iodine for no apparent reason. Yes, you are correct, this thread is for people with this problem, but you have been told by several trusted members that you are making baseless claims and still continue to make them. You are giving out information that is incorrect. You obviously have no knowledge of or respect for the scientific process, and that is a problem when you are giving out information related to it. You have absolutely no idea what caused your thyroid problem. You can blame ephedra all you want, the fact of the matter is that you have a thyroid problem and you don't know the cause.

Oh, and I don't think I am an English professor, I was simply pointing out that since you were going to insult my intelligence, I will insult yours. You also made sure to point out to Vieope that he forgot the h in thyroid. That is a trend with people who are wrong, when they cannot form a cohesive argument, they just insult the person they are in a debate with. For instance, when questioned why you would have these tests done every year without an existing condition, you pretty much threw a hissy fit and said anyone who responded to the thread in Open Chat was a loser. I read that stuff MetalV was talking about and see where he is coming from. You got chased away from that other board because you continually made stuff up without a leg to stand on and when you couldn't corroborate your story, you made up other usernames to do so, which was traced via IP address.

This was why I thought the general health board was a bad idea, you would have completely unqualified people giving out medical advice.

 

[Johnnny]

It is a known fact by endocrinologists that ephedrine/ephedra
increase the production of T3 & T4 in english the thyroid hormones plus I found some information that states this about these 2 supplements as well. In some ppl even after they stop usage of these supplements, there thyroid can remain in the hyper thyroid state which is what happened to me & a few other ppl I know who've taken these supplements. So again, since you don't have a thyroid problem, than please stay out of this thread. You are adding nothing but hot air to it. Thank you.

 

[Dale Mabry]

References please, and it is NOT a fact, there are very few facts my friend. If it were such a fact, I would have no problem finding something on Medline for it. I just looked it up and there was nothing.

The only thing I have ever seen is someone with a pre-existing thyroid problem having it aggravated by a thermogenic, and that is usually from the guggulsterones or tyrosine. That is not to say that there is nothing to be found, but if you are going to say there is something, provide a link to it. You also stated that creatine leads to cancer of the kidneys without providing evidence. This is the only problem I have with you, you make a claim and then fail to support it.

I will consider this discussion complete as I have achieved my goal. I have let people know to take the stuff you say with a grain of salt and that is all I wanted.

 

[Johnnny]

You aren't looking in the right places.

I never had a "pre-existing" thyroid problem as my annual check ups that included TSH blood tests along with other blood tests would prove that. & yes the ephedrine/ephedra supplements increase thyroid levels. The first thing they asked me when they found the problem for the first time was if I was taking any of these supplements as they knew I worked out & played football. Like I said I trust a thyroid specialist over you & so should the ppl who've responded & will respond to this thread

As for the creatine issue, I never said it causes cancer of the kidneys so don't put words in my mouth. What I said was it can over a long period of time cause kidney problems.

So again, since you don't have a thyroid condition, than stay out of this thread. This thread is for ppl who have or had thyroid conditions only. Read the title.

 

[V Player]

Originally posted by Dale Mabry
...you have been told by several trusted members that you are making baseless claims and still continue to make them. You are giving out information that is incorrect. You obviously have no knowledge of or respect for the scientific process, and that is a problem when you are giving out information related to it.

.. That is a trend with people who are wrong, when they cannot form a cohesive argument, they just insult the person they are in a debate with. ..... when questioned why you would have these tests done every year without an existing condition, you pretty much threw a hissy fit and said anyone who responded to the thread in Open Chat was a loser. ..... You got chased away from that other board because you continually made stuff up without a leg to stand on and when you couldn't corroborate your story, you made up other usernames to do so, which was traced via IP address.

WOA......dejavu all over again!!