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Mudge said:Never used primo, never will. Deca is only "ok" for me, so I wont bother with primo.
young d said:how dose primo compare to deca and eq? i'm thinking about running something else along with my test, i hear deca is best but the whole deca-dick issue scares the hell outta me!
musclepump said:Arnold used it!
Mudge said:Most people who run more test than deca who aren't over 40 or so years old have no problems. I prefer tren however, hands down. EQ is ok but doesn't do much, deca doesn't do a whole lot for me either. I am interested in strength though, size comes primarily from FOOD and persistent training, along with of course the 'supplements.'
Primo is described as being similar to a weak deca.
Muscle "wannabe half as big as Arnold" Pumpyoung d said:wannabe
young d said:well i'll probably go with the deca then, for the increased strength and the fact that sides are low (apart from the shut down), i've heard it is a great addition to test on a mass gainer, apparently test/deca/dbol is referred to as the 'classic cycle' so i might have to give that a shot
musclepump said:I'm using primo because it's mild and it doesn't aromatise at a rate even close to deca/eq, which is actually probably why it's so less potent. But like I said, it's cheap, and hey, Arnold used it!
Thanks Mudge, LAM.
Well I don't really want to stick more needles in myself than I have to, and while it's a DHT derivative I understand it's easier on the androgenic side of things, as well as HPT. I'm looking to put on mass and I've been told it keeps water retention down and because it's so mild, there's less chance to get gyno even when stacked with Test. I'm afraid I may be prone to it, so I'm trying to be as "safe" as possible while still using gear.LAM said:what exactly are you looking to do on this cycle ? that's what I would base which compounds to use.
musclepump said:Also, I've heard gains from Primo are easier to maintain... true?
LAM said:nah. it's just because you do not get the large flucuations in total BW with compounds like primo like you do with other compounds that aromatize at much higher rates. same thing with test/EQ, you may only gain 20 lbs on a cycle and keep 15 after.
if you are looking to get some solid gains in LBM with out gaining a bunch of water weight I would go with test and tren. I just finished my 1st cycle of test prop and tren and honestly can't think of a better combo. I wish I had tried it before. I have tried :test/deca, test/EQ/masteron, test/EQ/winny, sust/primo/masteron, test/EQ/Oral-Turinabol, test/var/EQ.
musclepump said:And, like I mentioned, one of my reasons for oral Primo was one less needle.
musclepump said:Also, I've heard gains from Primo are easier to maintain... true?
musclepump said:And, like I mentioned, one of my reasons for oral Primo was one less needle.
musclepump said:Hey LAM, lay off the steroids... I said "oral Primo" in my initial post