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primus_122 said:has anyone here fought in Vietnam and have stories? Just intrested
maniclion said:Colonel Walter E. Kurtz
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Mr_Snafu said:The Col. Kurtz character was based on a real human being, although the story was embellished in Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness."
I live in Saigon.
I talk with veterans. I have learned a lot about Vietnam since living here. One thing people need to realise, is how little we know about this culture, history, and motivations for conflicts from 1954 to 1975.
The American "experts" misinterpreted many things in this conflict.
I am happy living in Vietnam as an American. I have been here almost 3 years.
ForemanRules said:Joseph Conrad died in 1924, so I don't get how you think his book had anything to do with the Vietnam war.
You have not read it.
Mr_Snafu said:To: Foreman Rules: You didn't learn much in school studying English Literature did you?
Heart of Darkness & Apocalypse Now:
A comparative analysis of novella and film.
In the opening scenes of the documentary film "Hearts of Darkness-A Filmmaker's Apocalypse," Eleanor Coppola describes her husband Francis's film, "Apocalypse Now," as being "loosely based" on Joseph Conrad's Heart of Darkness.
As to the character of Kurtz, it is worth noting that while significant discrepancies exist between the depictions of Conrad and Coppola, the basic nature of the man remains fairly similar. The idea of company man turned savage, of a brilliant and successful team-player, being groomed by "the Company" for greater things, suddenly gone native, is perfectly realized in both novella and film. In the film, Kurtz is portrayed by Marlon Brando, the father of American method actors, who lends weight (both physically and dramatically) to the figure of the megalomaniacal Kurtz. Brando's massive girth is all the more ironic for those familiar with Heart of Darkness who recall Conrad's description: "I could see the cage of his ribs all astir, the bones of his arms waving. It was as though an animated image of death carved out of old ivory had been shaking its hand with menaces at a motionless crowd of men..." [1]. One could speculate that Coppola's Kurtz is a graphic analogy of the bloated American war machine dominating and perverting the innocent montegnards of Cambodia; however, after viewing Eleanor Coppola's documentary, one finds that the casting was more based on a combination of Coppola's wanting to work with Brando (remember "The Godfather") and Brando's own weight problem
Link: http://www.cyberpat.com/essays/coppola.html
ForemanRules said:Read the book and watched the movie; to an uneducated eye there are some similarities. The bottom line is some Hollywood hack is trying to make his screen play look good because 2% is based on a classic book.....very sad attempt to justify bullsh1t you read in the Hollywood insider.