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...that everyone connects with... yet somehow they can never reproduce the same effect?
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Good answer.
They're one-hit-wonders. They have one great idea, but arent creative enough to come up with a second great idea, or they get jaded by the music business and this taints their judgement on what is actually great.
See: Metallica.
Metallica has been around for over 20 years with tens of millions of albums sold. I hardly call them one hit wonders. Judgement impaired...maybe.
Perhaps these bands have used all of their best material and songs with the deepest meaning they have come up with over long periods of time and they get signed for having some good stuff that they may have been writing since high-school.
No, they fall under the second category (Jaded by the 'biz).
Though only the one album (Puppets) really "spoke" to me. The two before it were just building up to Puppets, Justice was pretty good but not quite as awesome, and from the Black Album onwards it all went to hell, culminating in St Anger, which is one of the worst "metal" albums ive heard in a while.
Though Slayer's Christ Illusion comes close in the "Dissapointing Comeback Albums" category. The only thing that saves it is that the sound of the record is decent, its just the songs that suck.
The only thing post-Puppets that Metallica have done that i truly enjoy was the S+M version of For Whom The Bell Tolls. If i ever get drafted into the military i want that version of the track playing when im out there. Its inspiring as fuck.
What are you on about? Although not the greatest fan, Ride the Lightening to The Black album were generally high quality. St Anger was rubbish, mainly due to the new bassist and that really shitty de-tuned sound that is far too rife in metal these days. So much so that i hardly listen to metal anymore. The snare drums sound on St Anger was crap too (to be pedantic). I don't think I've heard one song by anyone that is good with that shitty bass sound.
Bang on about From whom the bell tolls....that's made to be a war soundtrack.
Ride The Lightening was awesome, Kill Em All i wasnt a HUGE fan of for some reason, but Seek And Destroy is one of my favourite metal songs.
Im not saying those two albums are shit, i just meant they were paving the way for the much much better Puppets.
As for the Black Album, meh. I'll agree to Disagree with everybody on that one, because i just dislike 90% of everything that album is. The 10% i do like is Enter Sandman, haha.
But yeah, St Anger is universally despised i think.
Fair enough, I agree that the first two were building blocks for Puppets, which was superior. Most I know love the black album. Ok, it's a little softer, but the quality of songwriting is excellent throughout, so much so, that I would possibly consider it to be their best work.
I always thought they were at their best mixing classical guitar techniques with metal.
Favouristes: Sanatarium, Fade to Black, Wherever I may Roam, To live is to die.
Tool pwns all.
So the girls tell me.....
Fair enough, I agree that the first two were building blocks for Puppets, which was superior. Most I know love the black album. Ok, it's a little softer, but the quality of songwriting is excellent throughout, so much so, that I would possibly consider it to be their best work.
I always thought they were at their best mixing classical guitar techniques with metal.
Favouristes: Sanatarium, Fade to Black, Wherever I may Roam, To live is to die.
I think it's funny (and appropriate) that none of us Metallica fans even mention Load or Reload - I think they are better off forgotten in the garbage.
I think the reason the Black Album didnt resonate with real fans is because it was a departure from the music they made for the previous albums. It was far more mainstream so they could get the radio and video play they needed to sell albums, which they did. Smart move, but yes, not a typical album.
Tool pwns all.
Tool pwns all.
Big D, did you go to the last tour? I'm a big fan, but they broke into this half hour keyboard and synthesizer jam, that was so gay. I thought I was watching the end of Revenge of the Nerds.
I think it's funny (and appropriate) that none of us Metallica fans even mention Load or Reload - I think they are better off forgotten in the garbage.
I think the reason the Black Album didnt resonate with real fans is because it was a departure from the music they made for the previous albums. It was far more mainstream so they could get the radio and video play they needed to sell albums, which they did. Smart move, but yes, not a typical album.
I agree also.
Absolutely everybody has that album simply because its incredibly generic radio-friendly material. I know people who are total pop fans who have that album.
It really gets to me, when their first four albums are some of the best Thrash Metal ever recorded.
Master Of Puppets is right up there with Slayer's Reign In Blood and Megadeth's Rust In Peace as the top three metal albums of the 80's IMO. All three are classic albums.
It pains me how they went so wrong.
I disagree.
The House that Jack Built
Until It Sleeps
King Nothing
Fuel
The Memory Remains
These are some of my favorite songs....along with 20-30 of Metallica's other songs
No, they fall under the second category (Jaded by the 'biz).
Though only the one album (Puppets) really "spoke" to me. The two before it were just building up to Puppets, Justice was pretty good but not quite as awesome, and from the Black Album onwards it all went to hell, culminating in St Anger, which is one of the worst "metal" albums ive heard in a while.
Though Slayer's Christ Illusion comes close in the "Dissapointing Comeback Albums" category. The only thing that saves it is that the sound of the record is decent, its just the songs that suck.
The only thing post-Puppets that Metallica have done that i truly enjoy was the S+M version of For Whom The Bell Tolls. If i ever get drafted into the military i want that version of the track playing when im out there. Its inspiring as fuck.
Metallica was my favorite band when i was young. I was the typical pissed of emo whiteboy. Ride the Lightening, Master of Puppets, and And Justice for All all reflected what I felt inside at that time. Everything after that was soft, lame, and I didn't want to have anything to do with it. It did not speak to me. I couldn't feel anything from it.
James become older, more mello, richer, and content with his life. That is the Irony of it all. He was only good when he was miserable.
Metallica was my favorite band when i was young. I was the typical pissed of emo whiteboy. Ride the Lightening, Master of Puppets, and And Justice for All all reflected what I felt inside at that time. Everything after that was soft, lame, and I didn't want to have anything to do with it. It did not speak to me. I couldn't feel anything from it.
James become older, more mello, richer, and content with his life. That is the Irony of it all. He was only good when he was miserable.