exphys88
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5iu HGH 90 minutes before the draw.
well that might make the comparison interesting. I injected 5 iu 3 hours before my test. Do you think hgh serum levels can be compared? With an adjustment for the time difference?
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5iu HGH 90 minutes before the draw.
one week. Here is a graph that was provided for me about the pharmacokinetics of hgh. I was going to compare my results to this study.
The first treatment sequence received a 0.5 mL (2.92 mg) subcutaneous dose of r-hGH (Saizen®, Merck Serono) administered by standard needle and syringe (period 1) followed by administration of the same dose of rhGH using the cool.click??? 2 needle-free injection device (period 2). The second treatment sequence received 0.5 mL (2.92 mg) r-hGH administered by the cool.click??? 2 device (period 1) followed by administration of the same dose of r-hGH using a standard needle and syringe (period 2).
Yes, just found another chart. Looks like 3-4 hours if you click on the full text.It seems like your hgh serum levels are consistent with the graph considering you injected only 5 iu's and tested at 1.5 hours. Looks like good hgh.
Yes, just found another chart. Looks like 3-4 hours if you click on the full text.
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I haven't checked but sometimes the newer studies use more sensitive measuring as technology improves. I lean towards the newer studies because of this.Interestingly, their serum levels are significantly higher for a similar dosage to the graph I posted. Maybe it's their age? Their levels had a mean of 42.9 ng/ml. Whereas my graph, the mean was between 15-20.
I haven't checked but sometimes the newer studies use more sensitive measuring as technology improves. I lean towards the newer studies because of this.
Maybe they were injecting IGF-1? This is why I had my Growth Hormone levels measured as well. That way I would know if I was injecting HGH. Also I took the test fasted. Carbs can increase IGF-1 levels in many users. Anyway my baseline IGF-1 was 163 ng/ml so this is a nice bump for me.i remember seeing guys igf-1 tests being in the thousands while on hgh, so im wondering if theiir tests were just wrong or if they were taking it for much longer at higher IU
Maybe they were injecting IGF-1? This is why I had my Growth Hormone levels measured as well. That way I would know if I was injecting HGH. Also I took the test fasted. Carbs can increase IGF-1 levels in many users. Anyway my baseline IGF-1 was 163 ng/ml so this is a nice bump for me.
I'm planning on retesting down the raod at a higher HGH dose and I will wait a little longer after administration to get the draw since I had the draw a bit early.
I have been on Uncle Z's blue tops for about a month now. I started at 3.3 iu HGH daily and then moved to 5iu GH daily. I have ordered blood work to confirm the GH is genuine. My labs will include testing the following;
Human Growth Hormone
Acromegaly Screen (Basic)
IGF-1
TSH
Thyroxine (T4) Free, Direct
Glucose, Serum
I will continue to administer the blue tops every day. The day of the test I will fast 12 hours before hand. 2 hours before the draw I will administer a dose of HGH as peak plasma concentrations are about 2 hours after administration of HGH. IGF-1 levels are more stable and when the GH level is very high, the IGF-1 level is also very high. A test for IGF-1 may also be done to confirm high GH levels.
No matter the results I will post them here for everyone's review.
Yeah, I'm not really trying to detect doping of exogenous GH.
My labs where taken to show that once the blue tops were injected my GH levels and IGF-1 levels rose. I understand this is a semi-crude method however GH levels can be measured and will rise for several hours when administering GH. Anyway I think you are posting more about the elimination half-life of rhGH and how to detect it, where I am looking at plasma levels of GH.
Anyway, I'm happy to report my GH and IGF-1 levels are above the reference range. I'm thinking of doing follow up labs at a higher dose and waiting a bit longer after administration. Should be interesting to see if I can get my GH plasma levels even higher.
Testing IGF-1 or other compounds that will be indicative for injection of GH are not reliable at all . After GH administration there was no difference in peak IGF-I or P-IIINP or in the maximum change in IGF-I or P-III-NP.
I also had Human Growth Hormone levels tested which were well above the reference range. The blue tops raised my Growth Hormone levels.Testing IGF-1 or other compounds that will be indicative for injection of GH are not reliable at all . After GH administration there was no difference in peak IGF-I or P-IIINP or in the maximum change in IGF-I or P-III-NP.
sure thats entirely possible. igf in high doses would also cause weight loss due to dropping blood sugarMaybe they were injecting IGF-1? This is why I had my Growth Hormone levels measured as well. That way I would know if I was injecting HGH. Also I took the test fasted. Carbs can increase IGF-1 levels in many users. Anyway my baseline IGF-1 was 163 ng/ml so this is a nice bump for me.
I'm planning on retesting down the raod at a higher HGH dose and I will wait a little longer after administration to get the draw since I had the draw a bit early.
There are a ton of variables so not sure it would be apples to apples without a controlled setting.sure thats entirely possible. igf in high doses would also cause weight loss due to dropping blood sugar
id really like to see the blood test of a person on a name brand hgh so we could have an idea on how much hgh should raise igf
well that might make the comparison interesting. I injected 5 iu 3 hours before my test. Do you think hgh serum levels can be compared? With an adjustment for the time difference?
Testing IGF-1 or other compounds that will be indicative for injection of GH are not reliable at all . After GH administration there was no difference in peak IGF-I or P-IIINP or in the maximum change in IGF-I or P-III-NP.
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I also had Human Growth Hormone levels tested which were well above the reference range. The blue tops raised my Growth Hormone levels.
Also, IGF-1 testing is commonly used alongside HGH testing as IGF-1 WILL rise with GH administration over a period of time. Usually follow up HGH and IGF-1 labs are done after 1-3 months of Growth Hormone administration.
J Pediatr Endocrinol Metab. 2003 May;16 Suppl 3:631-5.
Confirming the diagnosis of growth hormone deficiency (GHD) and transitioning the care of patients with childhood-onset GHD.
Hintz RL.
Source
Department of Pediatrics, Stanford University, Stanford, CA 94305, USA. hintz@stanford.edu
Abstract
Growth hormone deficiency (GHD) diagnosed in childhood may persist into adult life. After attainment of final height, retesting of the patient's growth hormone-insulin-like growth factor (GH-IGF) axis using the adult GHD diagnostic criteria should be performed after an appropriate interval of 1-3 months off GH therapy. At the time of retesting, other pituitary hormones and serum IGF-I levels should also be measured. The opportunity should be taken to assess body composition, bone mineral density, and fasting lipid and insulin levels. Patients with severe, long-standing, multiple pituitary hormone deficiency, genetic defects, or severe organic GHD can be excluded from GH retesting. When the diagnosis of adult GHD is established, continuation of GH therapy can be recommended unless there is a known risk of diabetes mellitus or malignancy. The patient's transition to GH replacement in adulthood should be arranged as a close collaboration between the pediatric and adult endocrinologists, who should discuss the reinitiation of treatment with the patient.
PMID:12795365 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]
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Human GH is secreted in spikes and not continuously. Therefore a single measurement is meaningless. The accurate procedure in the clinic is taking samples every 20 min for 16-24 h. Therefore the value in your report even if it is a bit about the average says nothing. Variations in IGF-1 among different people and under different conditions are quite big there the elevation if IGF-1 level in you report also is not indicative of taking external hGH.
In conclusion so far we have no test for determining injected external hGH.
Some (but not all)recombinant hGH may have an additional amino acid at the end but even in that case there is no reliable test to distinguish between that and endogenous hGH.
If u really want to analyse Uncle Z blue tops I have a laboratory who can do it, then we can see a purity and dosage; let me know if u are interested.
Are you purposefully skipping over the serum hgh level of 6.5 w a reference of 0-2.9?
I injected some bunk hgh and my serum hgh was .1